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Rand Paul to block Saudi arms deal

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Is it too much to ask that we don’t arm our enemies who promote poison on our shores and foment and entangle us in unwinnable Islamic civil wars overseas?

That is a question many conservatives asked during the Obama administration. But few are willing to remain consistent today as the foreign policy swamp under H.R. McMaster leads President Trump down the same path.

As one of the few consistent men left in Washington, Sen. Rand Paul. R-Ky., is planning to fight the $350 billion Saudi arms deal the same way he fought Obama’s deals with the Saudis, Pakistanis, and Egyptian government under Mohamed Morsi. Senator Paul is promising to introduce a joint resolution of disapproval to block the Saudi arms deal, or at least force an up-or-down vote.

Although the Arms Export Control Act of 1976 gives the president the power to export defense services and weapons without consent of Congress, any member can introduce a resolution of disapproval to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee or House Foreign Affairs Committee and force a vote on the Senate and House floors within 10 days.

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source: https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/rand-paul-lays-down-gauntlet-to-block-saudi-arms-deal

  • Ramah Lee

    this jerk is still trying to be revlant, first healthcare because he didn’t have his name on the bill, noW this SHOW HIM THE DOOR VOTE HIM OU!!

    • Rob

      Relevant!

    • Linda Byrom

      Ridiculous!

    • jong

      I agree. Rand had better get on the Trump train especially with Tax Reform coming up.

      • Alvis Jenkins

        America doesn’t need tax reform. Jong doesn’t understand the tax code or he would know that federal income taxes don’t apply to American’s. American’s have been paying the tax for over 75 years in total ignorance.

        • jong

          Actually you dont understand the tax code or amendments for that matter. If you wish to get rid of taxes than get rid of them the same way they got here. VOTE.

          • Alvis Jenkins

            Jong: The federal income tax was introduced by Congress in 1862 as a excise tax and it is still a excise tax today as has been ruled by the U.S. Supreme Court. The income tax is being collected from Jong as a direct tax which is prohibited by Article 1 Section 2 Clause 3, Section 9 Clause 4 of the Constitution unless the tax is apportioned according to the census of the Union states, but it is fact that the tax is NOT apportioned. A look into the “Index” of 26 U.S.C. (The Internal Revenue Code) under the caption of “Liability for tax” you would see in scrolling down the alphabetical list of subjects having a liability for tax that “Income” is NOT listed. The “imposition” of a tax does not make a liability for the tax. The income tax is generated from “federal corporate activity” from which a “gain” or “profit” is realized. Wages and earnings acquired by “common right” are simply not taxable for American’s. 26 U.S.C. Subtitle A (The income tax subtitle) consists of 1,564 code sections, provides no liability for making anyone “made liable” for the tax. But note this Jong, you no doubt have heard that the income tax is voluntary and it is, but only for federal persons. In Subtitle C, Chapter 24, Sections 3401 through 3404 is very clearly seen that withholding of federal income tax is paid “voluntarily” when the federal employee makes a voluntary agreement with the employer to have tax withheld. He or she can choose to not have tax withheld because Subtitle A has no liability for tax. Section 3402(p) is where the employee pays the tax voluntarily and Section 3402(n) is where the tax is not withheld. Section 3401(c) defines the employee of Subtitle C, Chapter 24, as a “federal person”. Section 3403 makes the Federal Government “Liable” for the collection of tax and Section 3404 makes all Federal Governmental Employers required to make tax returns and payment of tax NOT the employees. So, Jong, I do believe that I have a understanding of the tax law and if you know otherwise, please refute what I have stated. Note that the income tax will never come up for a vote. Why? Because the Federal Mafia enjoys the bogus income tax paid by persons like yourself as a free gift. Don’t you like free gifts? Jong I would suggest you go online to Losthorizons.com and read all about the income tax from which hundreds of people are discovering that they do not owe the tax and are getting refunds and never required to file the tax ever again. Imagine what YOU can do with all that extra money you now pay out to the Mafia, the IRS?

          • jong

            And I guess you forget the amendment that made it law. Now go back and chase your tail a few more times get tired and go to sleep. And by the way the first tax was not brought in as a amendment that is why it was withdrawn. The amendment whether you like it or not is Law.

          • Alvis Jenkins

            Jong: You are a happy taxpayer and you will continue to pay a federal tax on your income and the IRS grins with glee when they see that you have paid in what is rightfully yours to keep, because they have you deceived. You’re a real nut case and like most of them, you can’t be cracked.

          • Snake

            Jong is typical of the permanent indoctrination received by the governmental indoctrination centers called schools. They are unable to think for themselves, even when provided with documentation and undeniable evidence that proves them wrong – this goes for libturds and conservatives alike, and even goes for the millions of Christians who have been indoctrinated to support an illegitimate Israel, accept mixing with negros, accept evolution and the big bang theory, and accept homosexuality, perversion, and immorality. Our country, like mist of the rest of the world, has been indentured by the zionist money-changers and thieves of biblical history. Not only is the “income tax” illegal and unconstitutional, but so is the FAKE federal reserve private bank, and the ALL of the entitlement programs, foreign aid, grants, and other frivolous expenditures made by our fraudulent and corrupt government!

          • Alvis Jenkins

            Snake: You spoke my mind exactly. Everything you said fits this bankrupt country. But as for me and those who are close to me, we’re hoping for a better time ahead with our current President. Thanks for your reply to me as it lets me know that you too know that the federal income tax does not apply to persons outside of the federal government. I attribute my knowledge from the now deceased Irwin Schiff and his book, The Federal Mafia. Also Losthorizons.com and the book, Cracking the Code.

          • jong

            While I disagree with it the amendment is still law. But, you and snake go right ahead and toddle arm in arm to kindergarten you both have much to learn.

          • jong

            Incorrect. But you go ahead and toddle right off to kindergarten

          • jong

            No I will try to get it reversed as other amendments have been. But, like most libertarians you are the one with the nut loose

          • Alvis Jenkins

            Jong: I bet you have never read what the Supreme Court ruled on the 16th amendment ? Because if you had, you would not be talking nonsense. So, get educated or remain a real nut case.

          • jong

            Poor child which case??? Pollock or perhaps Murphy. You shills are not well educated.

          • Alvis Jenkins

            Jong: Snake made a very good synopsis of your frame of mind and I find it useless to debate you on the law and I’m sure at this time you are one happy federal income taxpayer. FYI, I stopped paying the income tax in 1998 and have enjoyed the fruits of my labor ever since while idiots (persons of ignorance) will pay up to their adorable IRS.

          • jong

            Actually neither of you made either a argument or much sense. Liberals or libertarians rarely do. And when the IRS catches up with you I hope you land in jail. As for law you are getting it out of conspiracy books not US Code.

          • Alvis Jenkins

            Jong: If you remember, I told you that I stopped paying federal income taxes voluntarily and unlawfully back in 1998. The IRS knows that I am not a taxpayer as you are Jong. I get my info from 26 U.S.C. and you have gotten nothing from the U.S. Code to defend your position on the tax being owed. I will repeat again from the Tax Code beginning with the “Index” to 26 U.S.C. I have a copy of the tax code and if you do not then you cannot see the Index and what is missing under the caption of, “Liability for tax”. The subject not listed is “income”. Looking over all 1,564 code sections of subtitle A, you will not find one section that makes anyone “made liable” for the income tax. In subtitle C, chapter 24, sections 3401, 3402, 3403 and 3404 you will see that the withholding of federal income tax is made possible on any specified federal payment paid to a federal employee. Section 3401(c) defines a employee as a federal person only. Section 3402(p) provides for voluntary withholding, where both the employer and employee consider a voluntary agreement for tax to be withheld. The agreement can be cancelled at any time by either party. If the employee wishes for the tax not to be withheld, he/she does so at 3402(n) stating he/she had no liability for tax of subtitle A. Section 3403 makes the Government liable for collection of tax from federal employees who volunteer to pay the tax, and section 3404 requires all Governmental employers to make tax returns and payments of tax, not the employees themselves.
            Refute the tax code here if you can, Jong!!!

          • Snake

            Just because there is a “law” or and “amendment” doesn’t mean it is legal, constitutional, or right. There are several amendments that have been added that violate the initial intent of our Constitution – when congress created salaries and benefits for politicians, where congress changed the number of representatives based on population, etc. All of these later amendments are for the benefit of the politicians and NOT THE PEOPLE!!!!

          • jong

            Believe me I have well studied all the documents. Lets take the 14th for example its a easy one. It was passed by force in the South that wanted nothing to do with it. Not because of slavery but, it was given no choice. Even non slave owners did not want it. It has also been used incorrectly saying anyone born here is a citizen. Which is incorrect. The people who wrote it said it was to bring in Blacks all at once to make them citizens. Not for anyone after to abuse it as liberals have

      • Red Steiner

        I wasn’t aware Trump was in favor of this? Someone clue me in please?

        • jong

          In favor of what?? I would be happy to answer the best I can.

          • Red Steiner

            I wasn’t aware that the President was in favor of supplying weapons to supplying weapons to the Saudis. Isn’t there a possibility they will be used against us as those weapons Charlie Wilson was behind getting for Iran were?

          • jong

            Nope. Lets put it this way. I sell you a F-35 Fighter Jet. And you have the best jet in the world for about a month. The more technical the equipment the more things can go wrong. We not only sell them the equipment we make sure that we have some control over it in repairs and parts.

    • Red Steiner

      Ramah Lee? Muslim?

      • Rob

        Sounds towel head to me!

        • Red Steiner

          I’m sure it is.

  • Marvin Zeichner

    I think it’s time the US gets out of dealing arms to other countries. it seems like those weapons always end up being used against us

    • Red Steiner

      Yes, every damned time!

  • HDMania

    Seems to me the cancer is out of the bag now..its spreading thru the world..so you either arm our allies in the middle east and keep most gihadis over there ? or not arm them then the cancer spreads faster and pretty soon they will be here and worse than it is now..between a rock and a hard place now ? you betcha

    • Linda Byrom

      The cancer was out when Obama was elected.

    • Red Steiner

      Yes we are. Thank the Obama/Clinton Cartel for helping America’s enemies to gain strength for 8 years. We are in DEEP SH_IT. Stand with President Trump.

  • Dave Harmon

    I’m not sure on the arms dealing, but if not us then Russia or china will. As for Paul, like all the others fighting change, fighting Trump; time to get back to what this country was really built on. POWER, GUTS and PATRIOTISUM. Not POLITICAL CORRECTNESS, Illegal Social Service abusers and Criminals, not cry baby Millennials whom would not know hard times if it hit them in the face, Millennials who think free is a right while trying desperately to be important masquerading as HIPPIES from the 60’s, Gays whom want us ALL to have to live their live choices, Idiots who now want to eliminate GENDER completely, Feminists war on males, the attempted elimination of the white male and open discrimination against white males and white period, or a POPE who thinks every person in the world is giving and caring. Is that not kind of defeatist towards his RELIGIOUS BELEIFS of EVIL IN THE WORLD to be Converted? The USA is being taken from inside because our laws are not enforced based on Gender, race, religion and or political correctness. Our political reps are corrupt as are the judges. They are supposed to be the elite, why they are there. We need to punish them harder for their corruptions. NO, I fear a civil war will be the only answer. Until those who easily scream how their injustice treatments based on not getting everything free is shown REALISUM of pain, suffering it will not stop. Also, before I get hit about GAY LIFE CHOICES, yes I believe many are born with conflicts, whatever you want to say but I also know that a huge amount are a CHOICE. Some based in psychological issues, some based in physical or biological.

  • toddyo1935

    Did anyone notice the Saudi’s committed $100 million to Ivanka Trump’s foundation to teach women entrepreneurism? That was a serious violation where in SA, women can’t drive or go out without burka and a male relative companion. For all those who want to see Islam reform, I’d say this was a good first step. Wahabi’s must be tearing their hair out – I hope so. Knee jerk Rand can’t work behind the scenes to assure a proper trade deal. He needs the noise.

    • jong

      And unlike with ole jug ears the Saudi King came out to the airport. Ole jug ears crawled to him.

      • Rob

        And bowed!

        • jong

          You are far to nice. It was more like ole jug ears kissing his arse.

        • Red Steiner

          And did “Other things”?

  • Rob

    I think he is right! Remember 911? Well Saudi $$$ aided that! I don’t trust any of those towel headed bastards! If they get our technology it won’t remain top-secret!! How is it a good deal? I don’t mind doing business with Israel, they are Gods, people! If it came down to it, Saudi’s will side with ISSIS over us!

    • jong

      Would you prefer to have Iran over run them?? Or for it to come even further over here??? IF we can arm the Saudi’s and keep them some what happy it gives us leverage in them getting rid of their radicals

      • Rob

        They are all ready here!

        • jong

          But, not to the degree they have control in England. Then again we have lots of weapons for civilians here.

          • Red Steiner

            Yes and we have lots and lots of Dims who haven’t a clue what to do with the weapons or who are willing to use them in defense of America!

      • Rob

        We should kill them all, big and small.

        • jong

          And sooner or later by their own “holy” book we will have to in self defense.

        • Red Steiner

          Or just stop letting them in America and stop providing them with our technology.

    • Stikit

      911 was not Saudi. If so, why attack Iraq and Afghanistan. If you watch the buildings coming down, on UTUBE, you will see all 3 buildings came down by controlled implosion, set-up and set-off, by professionals. No, something very sinister happened, because of the Bushes…another part of the deep state.

      • Red Steiner

        You are wise beyond your years.

      • Rob

        President Trump is doing a good job, but he isn’t our only hope! Jesus, is our only hope, and he is returning soon!

      • Rob

        That is ridiculous, conspiracy theory and insanity!

      • Rob

        911 was Saudi money!

      • jong

        Already been debunked. And no they did not come down by some “magic wand” But, toddle off with your foil hat firmly afixed. LMFAO

        • Stikit

          Obviously you do not how to read and comprehend information. In other words you can not connect information from eye ball to brain. So, it doesn’t surprise me that laughter is all that echo’s in your empty head. The only thing that is debunked is any illusion that you are an adult.

          • jong

            And you are a little child in their mothers basement hiding behind a computer screen. One day you might want to get out and open your pie hole with such nonsense. I wonder how many beat downs it will take.

          • Stikit

            You are as pathetic as the hole you slid out of. I am retired. I suppose a slug like you enjoys licking up the food stamps and burdening society with your annoying mindless chatter. Enjoy your trip to the bottom, you useless sap.

          • jong

            Hardly child. I am a thirty year Vet of the US Army and US Intelligence agencies. Your kind of disrespectful bs on these people that were killed makes me rather ill as do both pauls. So do toddle off child for you never grew up to know the truth and have remained a child in intellect

          • Stikit

            I am vet too, US Air Force, And spent my life in construction. And if you want respect…earn it! If I were you I would I wouldn’t mouth off about intelligence, when you undeniably lack any.

        • Stikit

          Moron…controlled implosion, is not a magic wand. Time to drain your brain…your mush is turning to muck!

          • jong

            However that is not what happened. And you and your tin foil nut cases were debunked long ago.

          • Stikit

            You’re a goof…go away.

          • jong

            Typical liberal snowflake. No facts Now toddle off to kindergarten child one day you might actually get out.

          • Stikit

            Please! Don’t don’t pawn yourself off as a conservative…spare us the embarrassment.

          • jong

            LMFAO and you are??? You are hardly even human. Now toddle off liberal or libertarian there is hardly a difference.

          • Stikit

            You are too ignorant to tell the difference about most anything. You seem to bask in your lack of knowledge, therefore, resort to your 9th grade level of pontification. Be careful when you sneeze or you will splatter your brains.

          • jong

            Really you claim a lot of things with absolutely no proof. You act like a little child or a libertarian both are about the same. Now blather on child rant as you will. Because that is all you have. Not a single proof only conspiracy.

          • Stikit

            Why don’t you go to UTUBE…and let professionals explain it to you. You say you’re intelligent…prove it.

          • jong

            You tube and experts are a oxymoron child. No wonder you are so dense,

          • Stikit

            You really should stay on your medication.

          • jong

            Trying to pass You Tube off as credible facts and you think I need medication LMFAO child now toddle off to mommy and to school you really have a lot of learning to do.

          • Stikit

            Obviously your to dumb to investigate. Just another libturd. No brains, just a wagging tongue. Why don’t you go in the corner and lick yourself like a good dog.

          • jong

            And still no facts liberal. And still hiding in your mommys basement.

          • Stikit

            You’re a sick puppy…go away!

          • jong

            Thats right child stomp your little foot and it will all go away. Reminds me of ole jug ears recipe for foreign affairs.

    • Red Steiner

      Hell, we all know he’s right. Stop the insanity.

  • Rob

    Anarchists! President Trump deserves respect from the citizens of America! It’s always the African/Americans, or the Hispanic/ Americans, or the Latino/Americans, raising hell in America! The American/Americans, “We The People” should all, be demanding respect! You are welcome to legally, become citizens, but that doesn’t mean you can come here and become anarchists! You learn how to respect the American way of life, you don’t come here,to make here, like what you left! If you don’t like it here, go back!

    • The Redman

      U R A hater-loser-inbred. hahahhahahahahahah. jes like the other “98% yall the white-folk people”. bobbie-jo-bob

      • jong

        And everyone reading this please click on correct “button” to get rid of this moron.

        • The Redman

          hong-jong-tong-wong-yong-hong-song. hahahhahahahahahahah. peep-eyes

          • jong

            Child why dont you give us your address then we can make sure you get the help you need and so richly deserve.

          • The Redman

            Someone should’ve done dat 4 yo ho-ho mama B 4 she had U, huh. hong-yong-jong. hahahahahahahahahah

  • Rob

    Obama was raised by anarchists, he is a fraud, and a criminal that should be in prison for treason! George Soros, needs his citizenship revoked! The Democratic Party has proven themselves to be anti-American! President Trump should have them (elected officials of the Democratic Party) arrested and imprisoned for treason! If all the anarchists were jailed, we could get down to business making America Great again!

  • Kmat

    Where was the out cry when Obama was throwing Libya into a Civil War, arming ISIS and supporting the New Muslim Brotherhood?

    • Rob

      Trey Gowdy would have gotten to the bottom of that if not for dems like Elijah Cummings blocking, stalling, and fighting when he should have be unbiased as a committee member trying to get the truth!

    • Rob

      Being ignored!!

  • The Redman

    white-folks ruined america

  • JOSEPH MORRIS

    THE SAUDI DEAL FOR ARMS SHOULD BE BLOCKED!!! REASON WHY IS THAT IT TOOK 14 SAUDI ISLAMIC BASTARDS TO CAUSE 09-11-2001 OVER HERE IN NEW YORK CITY, WASHINGTON DC AND PENNSYLVANIA TO CAUSE THE LOST 3000 AMERICAN LIFES PERIOD!!!!! THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN NUKED OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH!!!!

    • Beverly Parrott

      Except it was our own government

    • Stikit

      911 was not Saudi. If so, why attack Iraq and Afghanistan. If you watch the buildings coming down, on UTUBE, you will see all 3 buildings came down by controlled implosion, set-up and set-off, by professionals. No, something very sinister happened, because of the Bushes…another part of the deep state, designed to involve us in the Mid-East. Corruption, collusion, catastrophe. Bush’s, Clinton’s, Obumma’s, all evil and corrupt. Trump is our last and only hope for a lasting honest peace, in our war against the evil force.

      • Alvis Jenkins

        I wholeheartedly agree with your statement. It must be remembered that the Bush family had ties financially with that Muslim dude that was killed in Pakistan.

    • Red Steiner

      Carpte Bombing in retaliation should have been done I believe. If you have a nest of crawly little Vipers smash them all. America and our way of life is at stake now.

  • jong

    Screw Rand and his nut case father. He is very old news and is not getting any fresher. Trump did the right thing.

  • Rob

    Last time I checked, Rand Paul is an American, and he has the same rights you do!

  • Judy Kidd

    He needs to be voted out. He is not for the Republican party anymore than McCain is.

  • Beverly Parrott

    Go sit down and shut the hell up. Your chance was doing something about obamas sick things he did. But hes still done and doing the same as he was as a fake president. But our congress and senate let him do what the hell he wanted and made rules as he went. I dont want to hear another thing from anyones mouth about President Trump who has and still is doing a great job. So join the TRUMP TRAIN or dont speak.

  • Stikit

    The deal should go through. 348 billion for arms to police and protect themselves. Plus they will give millions for our infrastructure, besides millions to Ivanka’s charity for the women to become entrepreneur’s. Now, President Trump must negotiate a deal with the newly elected Iranian leader.

  • Rob

    Obama, Clinton, Rice, John “You’ve got a friend” Kerry, Valerie Jarrett, Eric Holder, and honestly, the entire Democratic Party is guilty of treason!

  • Rob

    All President Trump has to do is take away the traitors, and anarchists, which Obama,Soros, Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Valerie Jarrett, Eric Holder, Van Jones,John Kerry, Elizabeth Warren, and 70 members of “Democrat Socialists of America” which is the entire Democratic Party! Then we can make America great again!